Founders Come First
The last two weeks have seen incredible ink, time, and venom spread around the competitive dynamics in the super-angel and VC markets. First the “smackdown” news and chatter this week and now Angelgate. While this makes for great press and lots of page views, the voice of the Founder has been absent from virtually all of the discussion and postings. In fact, more than being absent, Founders lose from the shredding and group think and activity happening the market today, and this is a really bad thing.
Super Angels and VCs are spending tons of time and energy arguing vehemently that one approach is better or best, all the while polarizing the discussion. Both groups are ganging up in various ways against the other. We’ve seen it in deals in the past few weeks whereby big VCs are actively cutting out the super angels, and yes, Super Angels are actively working to keep the big funds out of early deals. As Fred points out, the competitive dynamic in the market is heating up, and some of this behavior are the normal results of higher competition. While this should be a good thing for Founders by creating more access to capital and more options, the problem is that the current the polarization and warring between the two camps directly places the Founder in the middle of a battle that only hurts the underlying company.
A lot of our industry has lost it way in the current environment and on this debate. We’ve seen this movie before. It was playing on every screen in 1999. Back then, as now, the market was feverish and investors were judged by the checks they were writing. It was deemed most important to be in and around all the “hot deals” if even for a tiny amount. Everything got funded, and there was constant talk of early checks as “options”. “Just get in, ’cause it just might work,” was the thinking. At True we’ve tried to steer clear of this mentality, largely because we recognize that it’s really easy to write checks, and it’s even easier to write lots of checks. What’s hard is committing to a 3-10 year relationship with a Founder and working over that period of time to build something real. It’s hard to bring checks back. I wish this business were as easy as funding everything that looked good, but it’s not. It’s not about the funding, it’s about the building, and Founders build companies, not VCs, not super-angels. Founders.
Moreover, in the words of a friend, startups are a “team sport.” Our experience at True has shown us that companies need lots of important ingredients at the right time to succeed, and Founders shouldn’t be put in the artificial position (by any one ingredient) of needing to choose. Why is it a good thing for a Founder to have his/her angels antagonize the folks who are later important sources of capital for the company? Why is it a good thing for those later sources of capital to spend time competing for super angel checks that should actively feed them the best deals later? And while we’re at it, why is it a good thing for a Founder to have a bunch of “buddies” acting together in a syndicate? We’ve witnessed lots of group think, proxy investing (“if he’s in, I’m in!”) in the past six months. Leaving aside whether that’s a good or bad investment strategy, from the viewpoint of the Founder, it’s really bad to have folks in your deal that are there for any other reason than that they believe in you. It’s not about your syndicate, nor your angel investors, nor your VCs – it’s about YOU!
I’d suggest our industry do ourselves a real favor and remember where the power and creativity comes from in our world: it’s not from Super Angels, nor from VCs, it’s from Founders.


When I read my partner’s thoughts like this in a blog post, I am reminded why I love this firm and what we are doing!
Thanks Jon!
Phil
by phil black
on September 22, 2010
thank god someone has finally said it
if it weren’t for founders, investors would have NOTHING
by a founder
on September 22, 2010
Very thoughtful post.This and Fred Wilson’s post earlier today are the only two that throw real light on what’s happening and what should happen. Everyone else is busy playing the blame game.
by d
on September 22, 2010
Good post. My experience has been different from what people are suggesting is happening. Maybe I got in before the craziness.
My first investor was Halsey Minor, who I think it’s safe to say doesn’t care what any VC thinks about his investments other than he’d prefer they not know what he is investing in.
My second investor was Sequoia Capital, who could not care less what any other VC thinks and would probably prefer that other investors know they are investing.
My other second investor was Dave Strohm at Greylock, who opened their west-coast offices 25 years ago. He would probably not want other investors to know he is investing either.
All my investors have had amazing, record-breaking track records. None of them need to compare notes with anyone else. Successful VCs are like successful entrepreneurs, they lead and define their path. They don’t follow.
The idea of investors acting like a syndicate is probably true and I’m sure it happens. But it doesn’t happen to the good ones. And as an entrepreneur, if you think you have that happening as you are raising money, you should run away from them — not because they are colluding, but because they are idiots who can’t think independently. You don’t want that kind of remedial thinking on your board.
by David Ulevitch
on September 22, 2010
Truly refreshing to read such a level-headed and spot-on post re: Angelgate.
by Robert Young
on September 22, 2010
What makes some of this surprising is that many invoked in this debate were once founders and entrepreneurial executives in the past themselves.
by Semil Shah
on September 22, 2010
Semil — That’s actually not true. Not sure why you believe it to be the case.
by David Ulevitch
on September 22, 2010
I am glad this post was written and I hope there are still VCs who think this is the case – it takes a lot of effort and energy to build a team to make something (speaking as a founder)- and just going by “come through this person / network” (while it does make someone’s life easy) can be some times inconvenient for the person who’s fervently trying to take his /her product to the next level.
by Karthik Ram
on September 22, 2010
Hi David, my apologies for the confusion. My perception was that many “invoked” (using that word carefully) were either founders or “entrepreneurial executives” at startups that are now big companies, meaning that they were in early in some of the bigger companies. Do I have it wrong?
by Semil Shah
on September 22, 2010
It has been an interesting debate. What you say is absolutely true.
“Angelgate” sounds like 3 gas stations on a corner…and this type of behaviour is why many founders/entrepreneurs don’t trust investors. It’s really just an issue of how the venture industry is being re-defined, ultimately because of the low cost of a software startup. Virtually any startup can go from 0-beta launch totally boot-strapped…which means capital comes in late and valuations go up.
Of course the issue of a “syndicate” as you put it is not foreign to us Canadians!
I say good for founders. The Y Combinator model demonstrates that investment is more than just cash and quarterly board meetings – as it should be. Sounds like you guys have it right.
by Chris Hamoen
on September 22, 2010
This is so refreshing to me as a founder just a week or two from rollout. Its good to see that we are valued by some in the industry. Truth is some projects have a no entry cost so that when we are in a position to need any angel help, we will have some value anyway. Thanks again for a great post Jon.
by Ric
on September 22, 2010
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Thanks, guys.
by Pete Vlastelica
on September 22, 2010
Hi Jon,
Brilliant post.
One of the posts which is truly stating the obvious reality amidst all the noise that we are seeing in the last 2 days post the Angelgate episode.
Cheers,
Venugopal
Vengo Ventures.
by Venugopal
on September 22, 2010
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by startupbug.com
on September 22, 2010
Good post bringing founders into fresh perspective. We shud go back to the founders/investors smack down..Why did you pinch me like that
Those debates are healthy(ier).
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I like the idea of “Founders First” and it is a potent antidote to the self importance that occasionally arises when a money source gets comfortable.
But really it’s a symbiosis and each part is equally critical,(right?)and therefore valuable. Don’t you think?
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